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Moebius 1:72 Skipjack 12 Jahre 2 Monate her #30336

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The new Moebius 1:72 Skipjack kits are are arriving dealers in America any day now.

David Meriman, head designer of Moebius' new kit, just released some of his recent work on the fittings kit to whet your appetite. Check out that torpedo array (tray included with fitting kit)! More details can be found on www.sub-driver.com

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Moebius 1:72 Skipjack 12 Jahre 1 Monat her #30339

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I cannot believe it, I thought this model will never come. Announced since ages as it seems to me. Fine another member in the 1/72-sub-family!

Thanks for the info!

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Conversion Kit Ready 12 Jahre 1 Monat her #30341

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David finished the masters for the conversion kit and now is starting on masts & other detailed parts. There will be 2 kits for the Skipjack that will cover needs for both RC & static modeler markets:

The 'R/C conversion' fittings kit will be all the items needed to convert the kit to function as a practical r/c model submarine -- included in that fittings kit will be the foundations I showed last night to mount a torpedo weapon system if the customer desires.

I will develop a separate 'detailing' kit that will include refined masts, scopes and antennas, detailed door and deck hatches, main ballast vent flanges, cleats, mooring lines, figures, and other small parts to make a more presentable display piece.


More details on www.sub-driver.com.

Not sure what else is happening in other aftermarket kits but am sure they'll be appearing once these get into a few hands.

Tower Hobbies was shipping as of last Friday so expect to see owner comments appearing online. Buy 'em up so Moebius sees they have a hit on their hands & gives David the green light to commence on the next project which will be make any fan of the Revell 1:72 kits eager for more.
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Moebius 1:72 Skipjack Kit Photos 12 Jahre 1 Monat her #30443

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For those who haven't gotten their hands on Moebius' latest release, here are some photos of the actual kit before David ripped the box apart before commencing his build. Pretty kit if you ask me. 8)

















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Moebius 1:72 Skipjack 12 Jahre 1 Monat her #30444

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Hi,

got mine on monday too. It stayed ten days at the customs in Germany. But I didn't have to pick it up at the office, they sent it to me without any additional charges. And, yes it is a fine model. And roomy. I've put the pressure hull of my Robbe Seawolf into it, to see how it accommodates. Diameter is fine, length of the pressure hull could be 50-60% of the original length more. Hull details are fine too. I am very glad that I bought it.





Unfortunately it has to wait to get built. I have some other things to finish before.

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Moebius 1:72 Skipjack 12 Jahre 3 Wochen her #30486

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Here you go folks! All the juicy details on how Moebius' latest kit came to be in David Meriman's well-known cabal reports. In this first installment, David offers some background on Moebius' new 1:72 Skipjack & how it came to be.

Stay tuned, there's more to come.

Development of the Moebius Models 1/72 SKIPJACK Model Kit and its Conversion to R/C Operation, part-1

by David Meriman

A Report to the Cabal


(A note to my long-time Cabal Report readers: this multi-part Report is the initial draft of what will become a proper instruction manual used by those wishing to convert the Moebius Models 1/72 SKIPJACK plastic model kit into a fully capable r/c model submarine using the Caswell-Merriman fittings kit. So, please don't be put off by the later Joe Friday, by-the-numbers style of writing. And if you are put off, just hit the 'delete' key when these e-mails hit your in-box. And of course, all you have to do is shoot me an e-mail if you want off the Cabal Report mailing list).

As you get older you start to compile a 'bucket-list', those things you want to accomplish before you die. I made mine decades ago -- I tend to be a forward thinking type. Near the top of the list, right next to 'marry a Filipino Princess', was to help create a well detailed, competently researched (hear that, Lindberg?!), and successful traditional plastic model kit. That promise to myself made long before I became the poster-boy of American r/c model submarining; at the time I prepared the list I had little appreciated that an injection-formed, polystyrene plastic model submarine could be successfully converted to r/c operation.

Decades after formulation of the bucket-list the two interests -- plastic model kit production and r/c submarine building and driving -- intersected as I worked with Moebius to produce the 1/72 SKIPJACK kit while producing product for the r/c submarine hobby with Caswell.



Moebius Models has just released a plastic model kit of a 1/72 SKIPJACK class Submarine. I was the lead man on that project. A good history on the real boats can be had here, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skipjack_class_submarine

About two years ago I e-mailed the Moebius Product Development guy, Dave Metzner, suggesting they produce a 1/96 scale kit of the SKIPJACK class submarine. I figured, what the hell, the worst thing he will say is 'no'. Nope. The only thing he said was, "Too small. How about 1/72?" Holy-shit! Hell yeah!

And the rest, as they say, is history. The guys at Moebius are constantly pestered by fan-boys to make kits of some off-the-wall-never-get-your-money-back subjects. I was mindful of that and respectful of their time and resources. On the other hand, I'm not some no-body off the street. My name -- and more significantly, my work -- proceeded me; I got my hearing because of who I am (pisses you off, don't it) and what I've done; I've paid my dues in this game and cashed in occasionally, like this job with Moebius.



This is the contents of the kit: an excellent set of Bob Plant instructions, complete with a painting guide; decal markings for all six boats of the class; clear parts for the four dead-lights and stern light; sail; appendages; propeller; and a complete array of optical and electronic periscopes antennas, masts, including a well detail snorkel induction-exhaust mast.

The hull comes in quarters. Two bow halves and two stern halves -- the bow and stern assembles joining at a very robust radial flange near the hull mid-point. The hull (and this was no mistake) lends itself to being built as an upper and lower unit that can be opened up if the kit-assembler wishes to r/c this model.



Just a sample page from the outstanding Bob Plant instruction booklet that accompanies the 1/72 SKIPJACK kit. This is a far cry from the bare-bones exploded-view sketch provided with earlier Moebius kits. A perfect balance of illustrations and text, in plain English. No 'chinglish' here! We all worked to keep the nomenclature of parts identified in the instruction on a pare with the descriptive words used by those who made and operated the real thing.



The man responsible for the box-art and instructions (and to no small degree the decal sheet) is Bob Plant. He's Moebius' 'Art' guy. I can not heap enough praise on the job he did on the instructions. Bob's work is in the tradition of the kits produced during the golden-era of plastic models kits, the early 60's to the mid-70's. If, after cracking the box on the Moebius Models 1/72 SKIPJACK kit you feel sweeping over you the joy you first felt as a kid doing this stuff it is due to Bob's capture of the look and feel of the old, good-old-days.

The box art on the first issue of this kit is a very well photo-shopped melding of a Dave Metzner build-up and Bob's dramatization of a boat underway on the surface. If there is a follow-up issuing of the kit, you all are in for a real treat -- the new box art will feature a dry-dock scene from a noted kit illustrator. Stay tuned on that.



The Moebius team worked long and hard to get the details right. An example are the main sea-water (MSW) suction and discharge gratings -- on the kit rendered as photo-etched (PE) stainless steel parts. Getting the attack and night periscope right was a battle. I spent several days researching the type-2 and type-15 scopes used by most of the boats of the SKIPJACK class. We didn't get it right till the second test-shot. This demonstrates the uncomplaining willingness of Frank, Bob, and Dave to get the kit contents right before committing to production.



The Chinese (through no fault of they're own) did not get it right the first time. The mock-up, grown in a 3D printer, was severally flawed -- the fault was mine, there were several pardoxes of form presented between the documents and scanning models I provided them. And even after making physical corrections to the mock up, once it was scanned, and that file used to cut the initial tooling, the test shots revealed the need for further refinements. We went through two test-shot cycles before all flaws were identified and corrected. Only then did Dave give the green light to start series production.

More on the work done to correct the mock-up and test-shot flaws later. Above are some of the orthographic and isometric drawings I prepared for the Chinese to help them get the scope heads right.



Nearly a decade before the Moebius project I had been operating a 1/72 SKIPJACK r/c model submarine -- a fiberglass (GRP) and resin kit produced by Scale Shipyard. The kit is one of the best quality articles that company produces -- the accuracy of form and detailing is high; the parts were warp free and no bubbles to fill. Nice kit!

However, GRP-resin kits are not for the common kit-assembler; they require a great deal of talent to clean up, lay-out, assemble properly, and to get operational. I know of only a hand-full of these kits out there working today.

Above you see my Scale Shipyard 1/72 SKIPJACK tooling around the fresh-water pond at Norfolk's Nauticus museum where our club, the Elite Fleet, puts on shows during the summer months.

The Scale Shipyard SKIPJACK's a dead ringer for the Moebius kit. It demonstrated to me that a mass-produced plastic model kit, if built robust enough, would be the perfect hull for the first-time r/c submarine driver: Maneuverable, fast, and lacking the brittle little bits and pieces of a WW-2 era submarine that invariably break off during handling and use; the SKIPJACK is the perfect r/c submarine for those with itchy transmitter fingers. Believe me, I know!



The SKIPJACK (all of my SKIPJACK's) is operated as a wet-type r/c model submarine: the hull and sail are free-flooding structures. The propulsion, control, and ballast sub-system elements are all contained within a single 3.5" diameter Lexan cylinder. That removable cylinder forming the brawn, brains, and displacement changing mechanisms that animate the model.



How many of you old-timer's remember this kit as a kid? How many of you stuck a motor in this 13" model and saw it chase across the pool only to smash into the other side with a sickening 'crunch'? Come on! I can't be the only one to have done this?

Oh ...you were the cherry-bomb type. Sorry.



Electronics have matured to the point where even that small Aurora SKIPJACK can be r/c'ed! Caswell Inc. provides a fittings kit to convert the little model to r/c and they also sell the Sub-driver and devices needed to complete the job. www.sub-driver.com/models/submarine-mode...ne-fittings-kit.html



And our 1/96 scale, GRP-resin-metal SKIPJACK kit. This was the size I first recommended to Moebius, but they preferred a larger, 1/72, sized kit -- something that would be in scale with the excellent Revell 1/72 Type-7 and GATO models. A good call in my opinion.



Prior to my assembly and use of the Scale Shipyard 1/72 SKIPJACK. I had produced and marketed a 1/96 scale GRP-resin-metal kit of the SKIPJACK which I've been selling now for nearly twenty-five years. Of course I've been driving this version of the Beast around forever! I've even produced r/c versions of the little Aurora-Monogram-Revell 1/230 SKIPJACK -- a model measuring only 13" in length. The 1/230 and 1/96 scale SKIPJACKS pictured above.

Yeah ... I'm Mr. SKIPJACK!
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